Daniel 2: The Stone Comes from the Mountain

As Seventh-day Adventists we are very familiar with the prophetic history revealed in the metal man image recorded in Daniel chapter two. However, the work of the stone that is cut of the mountain is shrouded in mystery. Upon closer inspection many Adventists are shocked to learn that this stone is not Christ at his second advent. Come investigate the evidence for yourself and see who the stone is a symbol of in the last great work of the gospel as it swells into a Loud Cry. A systematic study outline is provided as a downloadable PDF file at the link following the video viewer.

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Rafael Alba August 3, 2012 at 10:01 am

SR vol. 2 p. 161 ” The great stone of Daniel two, that smote the image on the feet is a symbol of the coming of Christ; and the breaking of the image denotes the breaking of the nations. ” This passage is inconsistent to your study. Dan. 2:45. How do you harmonize this? Please reply immediately. Thanks…

SR-admin August 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm

Dear Rafael:

Greetings in Christian love!

Thank you for your question. By the grace of God we will endeavor to answer any man of the reason of the hope that is within with meekness and fear.

We can only harmonize the passage in SR Vol. 2, p. 161 with all that the author, Victor Houteff, wrote and published on the subject of the stone smiting the feet of the image. Below are listed several references from the Rod that make it plain that the stone is Christ’s kingdom and this is a symbol of the coming of Christ. As the study sets forth, based solely on the Rod, this involves an in gathering of the living saints, the 144,000 first fruits from the SDA church and then the Great Multitude second fruits from the nations. Finally the saints who die in the faith of Jesus are resurrected just prior to His visible second advent at which time He takes them all to heaven, the kingdom complete. If you would like copies of the any of the original Shepherd’s Rod literature to study for yourself, please let us know and we would be happy to send you some.

Yours in that blessed hope,

The Publishers

“ . . . while on the other hand the church with which God will break the nations, cannot congruously be likened to a woman, but rather to a “stone” (Dan. 2:45), or an “axe.” Jer. 51:20.” — Tract No. 2, p. 26

The “stone” (Dan. 2:45; Zech. 3 :9), the 144,000 (Rev. 14:1), “cut out of the mountain [the Laodicean church] without hands” (without human help), is to break the nations that are symbolized by “the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold” of the great image. And “all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” So “in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” Dan. 2:44.” — Tract No. 8, p. 63

The work of gathering set forth in these scriptures, shows that before the resurrection of the righteous (1 Thess. 4:16) and before the pre-millennial destruction of the nations, the Lord is to make up His kingdom at first of the living saints only, as seen from the prophecy of Daniel 2: the “stone” being “cut out” of the mountain (Dan. 2:45), and being symbolical of the kingdom of Christ in its beginning (Dan.2:44), then the mountain from which it is cut out, must necessarily represent the church from which the first fruits of the kingdom, the 144,000, are gathered. And as the stone grows and becomes “a great mountain” (Dan. 2:35) after it is “cut out,” it obviously at first represents the kingdom in its infancy — the “first fruits” only. The fact, also, that the stone grows and fills “the whole earth,” is another evidence in the proof that after this long-looked-for kingdom is “set up,” a great multitude is to join it. Were this not so, then the stone could not become “a great mountain.” Its being, furthermore, at first but a very small part of the mountain, shows that the kingdom has a very small beginning, just as the Lord says: “The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, . . . which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs.” Matt. 13:31, 32.” — Tract No. 9, pp. 40-41

The “mountain,” the kingdom of God, clearly then, is begun with the first fruits of the living (the 144,000) and followed by the second fruits of the living (the great multitude — Rev. 7 :9), and is completed with the first and second fruits of the dead — the 120 (those who received the Spirit on the day of Pentecost), plus those who arose with Christ (Matt. 27:52, 53), plus the great multitude who accepted Him after the Pentecost (Acts 5:14), plus all who awake to everlasting life in the resurrection of Daniel 12:2, plus the remaining dead of all ages, who rise on the great resurrection day (Rev. 20:6), also those of Ezek. 37:1-14.” — Tract No. 9, pp. 41-42.

Then, when the gospel work is finished and “the seed of the woman” mature to full-grown Christians (become the Lord’s battle ax — Jer. 51:20) — and bruise the serpent’s head, also smite the wicked nations — Dan. 2:44, 45), then shall be plainly seen that that which the first Adam lost through indulgence, the second Adam through self-control recovered, — the Kingdom Eternal again ruling the whole earth (Dan. 2:35).” — Shepherd’s Rod Tract 1, p. 65

On Daniel’s own word, the stone is symbolical, not of something else, but of the Kingdom, the which in the parable of the wheat and tares Jesus calls “barn,” the place into which He is to put the wheat (saints) after it is separated from the tares (Matt. 13:30). Now mark carefully that according to Daniel’s interpretation the stone depicts the Kingdom, the which God shall set up not after the days of these kings, but in their days, and that the stone Kingdom Itself, not something else, shall break the great image. If our interpretation of the stone contradicts Daniel’s interpretation of it, then we do not only reject Daniel’s inspiration, but even misconstrue the Word of God! We better not.” — Timely Greetings, Vol. 1, No. 15, p. 11

“. . . a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet, . . . and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth . . . and in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, and . . . it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.” Dan 2:34, 35, 44, 45.

What smites the image? Is it not the stone which Daniel reveals is symbolical of the Kingdom of God restored? Also keep in mind the fact that the image is not smitten by the stone until after it (the stone) is cut out of the mountain, without hands, and that afterwards it grows and fills the earth, thus in turn becoming a mountain of itself. In elucidation of this truth, the prophet Isaiah adds:

“And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.” Isa. 2:2, 3.

Thus as the stone, supernaturally cut out of one mountain, supernaturally turns into another mountain, then fills the whole earth, it reveals the process of the prophecy’s turning into history: that the stone (in that it is to grow) is symbolical of the first-fruits in the kingdom; that the infant kingdom begins with the 144,000 “servants of God” (Rev. 7:3); that consequently the church of Laodicea (in that it is the last in which the wheat and the tares commingle, and therefore the one in which the wheat, the 144,000 first fruits, is harvested) is necessarily the mountain out of which the stone, the first fruit of the kingdom, is cut or taken from.

Further, it is seen that their being “cut out without hands,” without human aid, obviously points out the fact that they are garnered by the angels; that their increasing, then, as the growth of the stone reveals, is the result subsequently of the gathering of the second fruits out of all nations, causing the mountain or kingdom, to fill the earth; and that this super-natural work of cutting out the stone, of separating the 144,000, the nucleus of the kingdom, is the purification of the church.

Finally, since the stone, as has been seen, is cut out — the infant kingdom set up — “in the days of these kings” (the toe-kings), not after their days, and since the 144,000 “servants of God” stand on mount Zion (Rev. 14:1), it conclusively follows that the stone kingdom in its beginning is set up in the Holy Land, while the toe-kings are yet in existence.

Beyond question, therefore, the 144,000 guileless servants of God (Rev. 14:5), composing the government of God in its beginning, the stone which smites the image, and which subsequently becomes a great mountain that fills the whole earth, are instrumental in the eventual overthrow of all earthly governments. Accordingly, therefore, of who else at that time in all the world, of who else indeed but themselves, could it be written:

” . . . they are men wondered at; . . . a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.” Zech. 3:8; Joel 2:2.” — Timely Greetings, Vol. 2, No. 46, p. 30

rafael alba August 10, 2012 at 8:48 am

how can be the 144000 become the battle ax after the close of provision?

SR-admin August 13, 2012 at 11:58 pm

“Thou [art] my battle ax [and] weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;”– Jeremiah 51:20

If one examines this verse in the context of the entire chapter it can be seen that the prophet is referring to the work of the 144,000 as they preach the Loud Cry, the time in which Babylon falls and God calls His people out (Rev. 18:4). I could encourage you to read Tract Nos. 8 and 9 which go into more detail to explain God’s kingdom will be established and the work of the 144,000 as God’s battle ax. These tracts are found on our publications page at the following link. God bless

http://www.shepherds-rod-speaks.org/rod-publications/

rafael alba September 15, 2012 at 1:39 am

You are quoting Isaiah 2:2. first question: Is it applicable after or before slaughtering? second question: Is it applicable in our time? What’s the relation to this verse to the house of David?

SR-admin October 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Thank you for your question. We quoted Isa. 2:2 in the Daniel 2 study only to shown that a “mountain” is a symbol of God’s church. In the case of Isa. 2:2 it represents the church during the Loud Cry in a purified state which is after the slaughter. In contrast the mountain in Dan. 2:45 is the SDA church prior to the slaughter as a mixture of wheat and tares. The great mountain in verse 35 of Dan. 2 is the same as the one in Isa. 2:2.

Skhumbuzo khumalo March 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Thanks for the study keep it up

SR-admin March 8, 2013 at 5:05 pm

Dear Skhumbuzo,

Thank you for the encouragement and may God richly bless your search for Truth as for hidden treasure.

The Publishers

Mzo January 20, 2014 at 5:40 am

We must encourage people to repent, and accept Jesus Christ as thier personal saviour and keep His commandmets as He is coming to for the second time. What is it going to assist us to interprete the stone , if its Jesus or not. Who is telling the truth between those coming with this truth and the spirit of prophesy? what is it going assist us after knowing that the stone is not representing christ? is it going to stop His comming?

sighandcry January 22, 2014 at 11:30 am

Dear Friend,

You ask the question what is going to assist us to interpret the stone in Daniel 2? Without inspiration speaking through a prophet then it is impossible for us to understand any prophecy in the Bible except we fall into the dreaded trap of private interpretation which is exactly what has happened to the SDA church in regard to the stone in Daniel 2 and many other prophecies. They rely for the most part on the writings of one man, Uriah Smith and various modern theologians to give to us the meaning yet tragically ignoring what God has sent to us through inspiration in the original writings of the Spirit of Prophecy and the Shepherd’s Rod message. Thus we see the cause for the confusion that abounds as reflected in some of your questions.

We would very much encourage you to investigate the writings of the Shepherd’s Rod as it is the divine remedy for all your questions and will provide answers far beyond man’s feeble wisdom and open up portals of truth from God’s Word that will harmonize all things and cause us to exclaim “what manner of love has God bestowed upon us that we can come to a better understanding of His Word and believe all that His prophets have spoken and prosper in all knowledge and wisdom coming straight from the heavenly portals.” Marvelous truth indeed, come and see for yourself and receive a refreshing from the Lord that nothing can compare. All of your questions will then vanish as the dew escapes the ground under the first warming rays of the morning sun.

Please go to the “Publications” link in the main menu of this website and there you can download copies of the original SRod message as PDF files. Or you can send us a mailing address via email and we would be happy to send you some literature without cost or obligation.

May God bless your search for all Truth as for hidden treasure.

The Publishers

B.Kimuyu January 24, 2014 at 11:04 am

who is victor Houteff!is the shepherds rod not misapplying and misquoting scriptures and the sop

sighandcry January 27, 2014 at 8:41 pm

Greetings friend in the name of the only Beloved.

If you would really like to know who is Victor Houteff, then please take the counsel that he himself offered to those in his day asked similar questions. “Read my writings and then you will know who I am.”

Fortunately, all of the original writings of the Shepherd’s Rod is preserved on this website and are available for your earnest investigation as does determine our soul salvation how we treat an inspired message coming from God (please click the “Publications” link in the menu bar). Please take your time to download PDF scans of the original Rod tract literature and read them for yourself to see if they contain Truth that is fully supported by the Word of God.

As to your charge that the Shepherd’s Rod is misapplying and misquoting the scriptures and the Spirit of Prophecy (SOP) you are obliged and will be held accountable to God to give some specific examples by which we will be able to respond and demonstrate that there is perfect harmony between what the Rod teaches and what is found in the Holy Bible and the SOP. Because where ever the Rod is taught the Bible and the SOP are also taught. To fail in this duty required of you would place you into class who falsely accuse a message coming in the name of the Lord without taking the pains to investigate its claims for themselves. We pray and hope that you brother will not fall into this snare of the enemy.

In Christian concern,
The Publishers

Mary February 2, 2014 at 9:37 am

My dear brother in Christ,
Your outline of Daniel 2 was spot on! What a blessing it was to read! I praise God for your ministry and helping bring others to the pure and true word of God!

sighandcry February 3, 2014 at 10:56 pm

Dear Sister in Christ:

Praise God from whom all blessings flow! We are thankful that you found this study outline on Daniel 2 to be useful. Please feel free to share with our beloved brethren in Laodicea and make use of some of the many resources on this website including more study outlines, video presentations, and downloaded copies of the original Shepherd’s Rod tract literature.

Yours to be used by God as the harvest is ripe and the laborers are few.

In that blessed hope, The Publishers

Confuzed November 12, 2014 at 12:00 pm

brethren would you please answer to my question- in bible prophecy a church is referred to as a woman right? so how come you referring the mountain where the ‘stone’ cut out without hands as the Laodicean church?

sighandcry November 15, 2014 at 7:48 pm

Dear Confuzed:

It is true that a woman is a symbol of a church as scripture indicates (Jer. 6:2). However, there are also other symbols the depict God’s church as a mountain (Dan. 9:16, 20; Isa. 56:7, Zech. 8:3, Isa. 2:2, 3), or a city (Mt. 5:14, Mic. 6:9, Eze. 9:4). This is not unusual as for example people or nations are symbolized in scripture as water (Rev. 17:5) or grass (Dan. 4:15, Isa. 40:7). Doctrine can be represented by wine (Hos. 4:6-11, Joel 1:1-5, Rev. 14:8, Jer. 51:7) or meat (1 Tim. 4:1, 3, 6; Jn. 6:27; Jn. 4:32-34; Heb. 5:13, 14; Isa. 28:9) just to name a few.

In the case of the stone cut out of the mountain in Dan. 2, since the mountain represents God’s church in the time of the ten toes, the Seventh-day Adventist, then the stone must represent a smaller group of people that are cut out (separated) from the larger church body. And this group of people represented by the stone is none other than the 144,000 living saints.

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